Audio available at Apologetics 315. See also:
Videos of the debate are here:
- Review of Craig vs. Harris debate
- Thoughts and links
- Humorous summary
- Comments-discussion on UD
- William Lane Craig books here.
Comments: I was hoping that Harris was going to offer a solid critique of Craig’s presentation. Unfortunately in his first rebuttal Harris just ranted about how religions are bad, and terrible things happen, and how “Christianity is a cult of human sacrifice”. Unfortunately Harris came across, imo at least, as a terrible theologian, and he offered no rebuttal of Craig’s arguments.
In the second rebuttal, Craig laid into Harris’ “red herrings” and said that Harris fundamentally does not understand Christianity. He told Harris that Christianity is not a fire insurance policy. We do not believe in God to escape hell. Craig continued to assert that atheism provides no moral foundation for morality.
In his final rebuttal Harris just just as pathetic. Very sad for me because I was hoping for so much more. Finally, here is the final quote used by Dr. Craig from the final page of a paper cited below — a very powerful conclusion to the debate.
Dr. Leff’s difficulty is the same as Dr. Harris’. He wants to find a foundation for moral values and duties, in this case for the law, that would be independent of human opinion. It would be objective and would be in the world and he can’t find one. He says any attempt to ground values in the world is open to the playground bully’s retort, “who says!”, and this is how his article concludes:
“All I can say is this. It looks as if we are all we have. Only if ethics were something unspeakable by us, that is something transcendant, could law be unnatural, and therefore unchallengeable. As things now stand, everything is up for grabs.
napalming babies is bad,
starving the poor is wicked,
buying and selling each other is depraved,
there is in the world such a thing as evil.
[All together now:] Sez who?
God help us.”
UNSPEAKABLE ETHICS, UNNATURAL LAW, The Duke Law Journal by Dr. Arthur Allen Leff