Clarion Project: Why do you think liberals in America have had such difficulty supporting atheists in Muslim majority societies, despite the obvious persecution they face?
Aki Muthali: Liberals in America have difficulty supporting atheists in Muslim-majority societies because they not only have a lower expectation of how Muslims can behave as rational people, but they also erroneously conflate the anti-Muslim bigotry faced by Muslim minorities in the West to how Muslims abuse atheists and non-Muslims in the East.
Their narrative has been, for a long time, that Muslims are always the victims regardless of where they reside. They justify this dishonest narrative with everything from the Christian conquest of Spain in 1492, to the birth of Israel in 1948, to white guilt and Western imperialism. There’s no limit to how far a Western liberal will betray actual liberal values to make up for the guilt they erroneously feel towards their own country.
Their priority is consoling their indignation (regardless of how misplaced it is) — not human rights.
Ed: Mmmm, not sure how she grounds “human rights” within an atheistic framework, given that atheism provides no foundation for objective morality. If objective morality is not exist in real reality, then morality has to be subjective, in which case why is she criticizing Muslims for practicing subjective morality?
This is one of the best Islam-Christianity short talks we have ever heard, in which two different concepts of God are compared and contrasted.
Dr. William Lane Craig clearly shows how the God of Islam is morally deficient, while by contrast the God of the Bible is morally perfect. This perfection is brought into focus in particular within the trinity.
This last point about the trinity is especially interesting because Muslims are often quick to attack the trinity, while Christians are often reluctant to defend the trinity before Muslims. Dr. Craig shows that, in fact, the trinity is a great asset to Christianity as a cohesive and coherent set of beliefs.
Here is his book Grand Central Question (great title) on Amazon.
The Islamic State is no mere collection of psychopaths. It is a religious group with carefully considered beliefs, among them that it is a key agent of the coming apocalypse. Here’s what that means for its strategy—and for how to stop it.
The caption from one of the article’s photos:
Bernard Haykel, the foremost secular authority on the Islamic State’s ideology, believes the group is trying to re-create the earliest days of Islam and is faithfully reproducing its norms of war. “There is an assiduous, obsessive seriousness” about the group’s dedication to the text of the Koran, he says.
Yet Obama and his fellow demagogues assure the ignorant masses that ISIS is not Islamic. Another caption reads:
Anjem Choudary, London’s most notorious defender of the Islamic State, says crucifixion and beheading are sacred requirements.
From “Son of Hamas” Mosab Hassan Yousef’s blog:
Wherever I go in the world, people ask me about ISIS. And I advise them to ignore the endless debates about the peaceful versus violent nature of Islam and take a long, hard look at the Islamic State. ISIS is Islam, exposed in all its cruelty and ugliness, unchanged since Muhammad.
The atrocities committed by ISIS are merely an extension of the atrocities committed by Islam’s prophet.
The true Five Pillars of Islam are: Slaughter, Intolerance, Oppression, Hatred, and Global Dominion, because Muhammad was a slaughterer, intolerant, oppressive, hateful, and drove his armies to destroy everything and everyone that stood in the way of his establishment of a world caliphate.
Muhammad said to the people of Mecca, “I have brought slaughter to you,” then he beheaded every male, young and old.
Choose Islam, and you choose ISIS, because they are indistinguishable. Reject ISIS, and you reject Islam, because they are one.
ISIS must be stopped, yes. But the Islamic State is not an international problem. It is an Arab problem. And the armies of Jordan, Egypt, UAE, and others are well equipped to deal with it. Western intervention will only create more chaos and reinforce the illusion of a Middle East/Western conflict.
Like Libya and Yemen, ISIS is a tribal conflict, not a political one. The Islamic State is the Sunni backlash against domination and persecution by minority Shi’a Muslims in Iraq and the ruling Alawite minority of Syria.
Islam hates everything that is not Islam. And just as fresh water and salt water cannot flow from the same spring, love and goodness cannot flow from a religion that is established on hatred and violence.
As long as Muslims refuse to take a strong and aggressive stand against terrorism, they must share responsibility for the continuing atrocities. The hour has come for every Muslim to choose to be human or inhuman, noble or criminal.
The Crusades are used again and again to slash at Christians, but according to scholar Rodney Stark (Amazon book), most of what we are told in popular culture about The Crusades is false. Here are some resources for the apologist from another scholar, Thomas F. Madden (website):
- The Real History of the Crusades (Thomas F. Madden, Christianity Today)
- Getting Medieval: Let’s leave the Middle Ages out of discussions of modern Islam (Thomas F. Madden, National Review Online)
LONDON — British police investigating the savage killing of an off-duty soldier in London have arrested three more suspects.
Scotland Yard said counter-terrorism officers arrested two men, aged 24 and 28, at a residential address in southeast London.
A third man, 21, was arrested separately on a London street at the same time.
Police said Saturday they used a stun gun on two of the suspects. All three were detained on suspicion of conspiracy to commit murder.
And, although Mr. Wilders was eventually acquitted by his kangaroo court, the determination to place him beyond the pale is unceasing: “The far-right anti-immigration party of Geert Wilders” (The Financial Times) . . . “Far-right leader Geert Wilders” (The Guardian) . . . “Extreme right anti-Islam politician Geert Wilders” (Agence France-Presse) is “at the fringes of mainstream politics” (Time) . . . Mr. Wilders is so far out on the far-right extreme fringe that his party is the third biggest in parliament. Indeed, the present Dutch government governs only through the support of Wilders’ Party for Freedom. So he’s “extreme” and “far-right” and out on the “fringe,” but the seven parties that got far fewer votes than him are “mainstream”? That right there is a lot of what’s wrong with European political discourse and its media coverage: Maybe he only seems so “extreme” and “far-right” because they’re the ones out on the fringe.
And so a Dutch parliamentarian lands at Heathrow to fulfill a public appearance and is immediately deported by the government of a nation that was once the crucible of liberty. The British Home Office banned Mr. Wilders as a threat to “public security” — not because he was threatening any member of the public, but because prominent Muslims were threatening him: The Labour-party peer Lord Ahmed pledged to bring a 10,000-strong mob to lay siege to the House of Lords if Wilders went ahead with his speaking engagement there.
“…So why not fathers marrying sons and moms marrying daughters? Is it because of the ‘ick’ factor? Why should that preclude it? If life comes down to who you love and who loves you back, if a father and son love each other so much they want to get married, there is little moral difference between two people of the same sex getting married who are not related and want to be and two people of the same sex who already are related becoming closer…”
Yup. Question is, will Mormons or Muslims be the first to fight the discrimination in the courts?
Yes, persecution is coming, and yes the state would appear to be meddling in the church (synagogue, temple, mosque) again.
So if words mean anything at all, this will mean that non-compromising/non-bow-the-knee-to-the-state churches will be in the sights of the state if they don’t bow the knee to the demands of a rabid ~1% of the population and their state meddling backers.
Understanding a World in Crisis
A friend writes:
Last Saturday we went to a series of lectures at Grace Community Church called “Understanding a World in Crisis”. Three lectures were delivered by Mathias Kern. Professor Kern is an adjunct professor at the Masters College, and has been involved in advising senior government officials in a number of countries for many years. He is […]
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